That is pretty tight, and it's a long line and I probably missed something. But it takes advantage of that mid-board threat. That enables you to be more conservative in crossing the quadrant. For example, I think I might have tried:
This is going to be a stupid question, but here goes. How does a mere mortal like me learn what the bot says?
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2022-09-25 at 19:55,
Peyrol
said:
Alan, sorry I missed your post while I was writing mine. This might take a couple of hours.
Loren, your "learn what the bot says" could be taken two ways. If you mean, how do I learn to play as well as the bot, perhaps you could install the bot on your PC for practice. There is a recent thread on LG that discusses this. This is arguably better than just playing Twixtbot on LG because you can choose how much time it takes per move, and you can take a first move handicap. That's what I do and I still usually lose. If you mean how do I find out what the bot would do, again you might install it on your machine.
or perhaps you can save time by going directly here:
https://github.com/stevens68/twixtbot-ui
Personally, I have done NONE of this, since I find all this software stuff to be totally brain numbing. However, a bunch of other folks HAVE, so hopefully you can find this all helpful. mc
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2022-09-26 at 02:12,
Peyrol
said:
|26.h8 bot: 27.s1128.r829.j830.g1631.f1632.g1233.i14? 34.j935.l9?? This is a rare bot error. Black can win with 36.i8. I backed up and took over for white. 33.f1134.h1935.g1936.f2037.e20 (White is threatening M5) 38.j4 Now I let the bot play both sides again. 39.k640.k541.e542.d543.c6 and white wins. But it occurred to me that black should not have played G16. After 30.g12 white does not get the opportunity to play F11 with tempo, which was crucial for white in the above variation. So I believe black wins with H8 after all. For example 31.j1332.k7 This demonstrates how fallible the bot is, especially in such a long line. So please do question everything here.
|26.h827.h728.j7 the bot agrees with Alan's line, after lots of faffing around on the right side. The threat of white M5 (see the above variation that was winning for white) does not help white here.
Thank you to everyone who gave me information on how to get the "Twixt Bot." I am afraid when I go to GitHub I am lost. The windows installer link says it is expired, and the rest seems to assume I know things I do not. If anyone can translate without too much effort I would be grateful, but I will keep trying to decipher the stevens68/twixtbot-ui link in the mean time.
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2022-09-26 at 09:43,
MisterCat
said:
Loren, go back to the Forum page above and post this question there. Way more people will see the question over there than over here - even the developers of the Twixtbot gui. I expect that somebody there can help you out with the technical details. mc
27.h7
That is pretty tight, and it's a long line and I probably missed something. But it takes advantage of that mid-board threat. That enables you to be more conservative in crossing the quadrant. For example, I think I might have tried:
|26.i6 27.e7 28.f9 29.d10 30.f13 31.j13 32.g11
but I have not analyzed this exhaustively. I'd like to know what the bot thinks.
Loren, your "learn what the bot says" could be taken two ways.
If you mean, how do I learn to play as well as the bot, perhaps you could install the bot on your PC for practice. There is a recent thread on LG that discusses this. This is arguably better than just playing Twixtbot on LG because you can choose how much time it takes per move, and you can take a first move handicap. That's what I do and I still usually lose.
If you mean how do I find out what the bot would do, again you might install it on your machine.
https://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/topic2.jsp?forum=55&topic=429
or perhaps you can save time by going directly here:
https://github.com/stevens68/twixtbot-ui
Personally, I have done NONE of this, since I find all this software stuff to be totally brain numbing. However, a bunch of other folks HAVE, so hopefully you can find this all helpful.
mc
|26.h8 27.h7 bot: 28.i6 29.i5 30.g12 31.j13 32.j9 black wins.
|26.h8 27.h7 28.j7 the bot agrees with Alan's line, after lots of faffing around on the right side. The threat of white M5 (see the above variation that was winning for white) does not help white here.
Yeah, sure, |26.i6 also wins. The bot line goes 27.s11 28.r8 29.e7 30.g12 31.j13 32.h10 and Alan's line probably also works.
mc