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White: bob440    Black: Flemming Jensen
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On 2022-06-13 at 17:00, bob440 (info) said:
Flemming didn't cooperate with my attempted Medcalf defense and I misplayed it ...

|15.r6 16.q5 17.p5
|15.r6 16.p5 17.s3

anything else?

On 2022-06-13 at 18:46, Alan Hensel (info) said:
I think s4 is so close to the edge that you don't need Medcalf. Just |13.r6 right away.

14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.m2 19.o5 20.l4 21.n3 22.o3 23.p3 or 14.p5 15.s3 or 14.p4 15.p5
unless I'm missing something?

On 2022-06-13 at 22:31, Peyrol (info) said:
How about |13.r6 14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.l3 19.o5 20.o4 21.k3 22.q8
Or |15.r6 16.q3 should also work for black.

But |15.n5 (threatening white T6) 16.p5 17.p4 18.r6 19.m8 look,s good for white.

On 2022-06-13 at 22:51, Peyrol (info) said:
Uh, let me amend that.
|15.n5 16.p5 17.p4 18.r6 19.m8 runs into 20.m11 21.n10 22.n13 23.r15 24.q13
So instead, 19.m9 for example 20.l9 21.l7 22.n10 23.o10

On 2022-06-13 at 23:11, bob440 (info) said:
hmm -- does all this mean I may be "excused" for not finding the right solution? ;^)

On 2022-06-13 at 23:17, Peyrol (info) said:
I should add that the bottom left corner is not trivial. White might have to build a new ladder on the left after |15.n5 16.m16

On 2022-06-13 at 23:21, Alan Hensel (info) said:
|13.r6 14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.l3 19.o5 20.o4 21.k3 22.q8

23.n6


and then...
24.s9 25.o8 ?
24.m6 25.r10 ?
24.n11 25.n12 26.s9 27.m8 28.o9 29.m10 ?

On 2022-06-13 at 23:51, bob440 (info) said:
Again, the question was not "how could I have won?", but "how could I have not lost right here?" ...

looks to me like |13.r6 is the answer -- remainder of game to be played

On 2022-06-13 at 23:55, Peyrol (info) said:
Heh |13.r6 14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.l3 19.o5 20.o4 21.k3 22.q8 23.n6 24.i4 25.i2 26.o11 27.n12 28.s9 29.o8 30.p9 31.m10 32.n8 33.l8 34.l7

On 2022-06-14 at 00:00, Peyrol (info) said:
Which might win for black after |13.r6 14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.l3 19.o5 20.o4 21.k3 22.q8 23.n6 24.i4 25.i2 26.o11 27.n12 28.s9 29.o8 30.p9 31.m10 32.n8 33.l8 34.l7 35.j7 36.f7 37.k5 38.m16

On 2022-06-14 at 00:54, Peyrol (info) said:
|15.n5 doesn't look any better, e.g. 16.p5 17.p4 18.r6 19.m9 20.k7 21.k8 22.i8 23.l6 24.m16 25.j17 26.j19 27.f18 28.i17 29.g15 30.j15 31.h13 32.k12

On 2022-06-16 at 19:19, bob440 (info) said:
|13.r6 14.q3 15.p5 16.n4 17.m4 18.l3 19.o5 20.o4 21.k3 22.q8 23.n6 24.i4 25.i2 26.o11 27.n12 28.s9 29.o8 30.p9 31.m10 32.n8 33.l8 34.l7 35.j7 36.f7 37.k5 38.m16

wow! that's a lot of work!

|10.m16

On 2022-06-18 at 23:37, Peyrol (info) said:
If black starts a fight in the lower left on move 10, one possible continuation might be |10.m16 11.j17 12.j19 13.f18 14.i17 15.g15 16.j15 17.g10 and IMO white has the advantage. 10.m16 is not necessarily bad, but black should play downstream somewhere in the top left before this battle progresses too far. For example |10.i8 is a double threat to either play black M16 or black P9. But then white could play 11.s12 and then for example 12.n17 13.s16. This early in the opening is difficult to evaluate. These are just suggested moves. This pattern of play is called windmilling, because it travels around the board, clockwise in this case.

I can find no fault with 10.o7, the move black played in the game. Perhaps one should look at alternate moves by white, not black, since white lost.

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