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White: Tarko42    Black: Robert Butler
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On 2019-07-27 at 14:57, BonyJordan (info) said:
1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r15 19.s11 20.o11 21.v16 22.u18 23.g12 24.f11 25.e11 26.d10 27.r16 28.s4 29.c10 30.e8 31.b8 32.d6 33.d4 34.b7 35.u4 36.v5 37.t2 38.w15 39.q10 40.j21 41.m11 42.j16 43.g19 44.f21 45.e18 46.f16 47.d16 48.p8 49.p10 50.q9 51.q12 52.v9 53.s9 54.e14 55.c14 56.f12 57.b12 58.h20 59.b21 60.d21 61.d22 62.e23 63.c19 64.c22 65.c23 66.s17 67.r1
after 6: 0.547
after 12: 0.588
after 18: 0.572
after 24: 0.689
after 30: -0.061
after 36: -0.705
after 42: -0.917
after 48: -0.960
after 54: -0.989
after 60: -0.998
after 66: -1.000

On 2019-07-27 at 15:39, twixter (info) said:
Pretty amazing, thanks

How about |1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r10 and then 19.v16 20.t17 or 19.u14 20.t16 21.t17 22.s18 23.u15 24.t20 25.s16 26.q17 27.q15 28.o16 29.o14 30.j18

On 2019-07-27 at 15:54, MisterCat (info) said:
yes, 'amazing'. I've been meaning to write an 'essay' on Twixtbot at the forum, but have been lazy; a preview here: 'amazing', yes: no human being plays that way. To David and Alan, who want to gain some 'profound' wisdom and playing strategy from the bot - I say, thee, NAY! Twixtbot is not playing strategically; it is playing statistically. No human being plays that way, and never will, because humans are not capable of correlating results of millions of trials in their head, or even on pencil and paper, or even on a word processor (nobody types that fast). That this statistical approach, pioneered by Alpha Go, is sufficient to beat the best humans is, perhaps frustrating from an egotistical point of view, but alas - I think the only thing to be learned from extensive analysis here MAY be an approach to take for beating Twixtbot. Such an approach, IF it exists, would be irrelevant and ineffective against human opponents. So speaks T.H.E. Cat, with my 1750 Twixt rating. (meow)

On 2019-07-27 at 20:54, twixter (info) said:
I don't see how playing statistically would preclude playing strategically.

Heh maybe you would find a more sympathetic reader here:

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/949/twixt/forums/0

On 2019-07-28 at 00:18, MisterCat (info) said:
Yes, I understand that The Commentator exists for game commentary, and is not intended as a forum. I have no membership to Board Game Geek, so can not post there - and am not certain to which thread you might refer, if any. I actually DO have a point that I am making above, am quite serious about it, and will eventually rewrite the above comment and add some essays in the LG Forum, and not here. This reply is just that - a reply. These Twixtbot learning games are pretty dog gone crazy - that's my comment. (meow)

On 2019-07-28 at 10:57, twixter (info) said:
One point of my R10 variation is that I don't think G12 will help white as much.

|1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r10 19.u14 20.t16 21.t17 22.s18 23.u15 24.t20 25.g12 26.n16 27.s16 28.q17 29.q15 30.m14 31.n12 32.m13 33.l14 34.l15 35.g8 36.h18

On 2019-07-29 at 23:14, BonyJordan (info) said:
1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r10 19.g12 20.g9 21.v16 22.t20 23.f10 24.f7 25.h9 26.i4 27.r16 28.u7 29.s4 30.p17 31.p15 32.n16 33.e8 34.d8 35.i7 36.k5 37.h5 38.g5 39.n5 40.l5 41.o3 42.n6 43.t17 44.q20 45.o12 46.h17 47.d19 48.f16 49.d15 50.c15 51.u22 52.v21 53.u20 54.r21 55.b16 56.u14 57.w14 58.e14 59.c14 60.c13 61.j16 62.j18 63.b12 64.b11 65.k18 66.l19 67.p21 68.q19 69.m19 70.n20 71.o20 72.o22 73.s22 74.p20
after 6: na
after 12: na
after 18: na
after 24: -0.557
after 30: -0.717
after 36: -0.437
after 42: -0.503
after 48: 0.622
after 54: 0.839
after 60: 0.893
after 66: 0.954
after 72: 0.991

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