yes, 'amazing'. I've been meaning to write an 'essay' on Twixtbot at the forum, but have been lazy; a preview here: 'amazing', yes: no human being plays that way. To David and Alan, who want to gain some 'profound' wisdom and playing strategy from the bot - I say, thee, NAY! Twixtbot is not playing strategically; it is playing statistically. No human being plays that way, and never will, because humans are not capable of correlating results of millions of trials in their head, or even on pencil and paper, or even on a word processor (nobody types that fast). That this statistical approach, pioneered by Alpha Go, is sufficient to beat the best humans is, perhaps frustrating from an egotistical point of view, but alas - I think the only thing to be learned from extensive analysis here MAY be an approach to take for beating Twixtbot. Such an approach, IF it exists, would be irrelevant and ineffective against human opponents. So speaks T.H.E. Cat, with my 1750 Twixt rating. (meow)
On
2019-07-27 at 20:54,
twixter
said:
I don't see how playing statistically would preclude playing strategically.
Heh maybe you would find a more sympathetic reader here:
Yes, I understand that The Commentator exists for game commentary, and is not intended as a forum. I have no membership to Board Game Geek, so can not post there - and am not certain to which thread you might refer, if any. I actually DO have a point that I am making above, am quite serious about it, and will eventually rewrite the above comment and add some essays in the LG Forum, and not here. This reply is just that - a reply. These Twixtbot learning games are pretty dog gone crazy - that's my comment. (meow)
On
2019-07-28 at 10:57,
twixter
said:
One point of my R10 variation is that I don't think G12 will help white as much.
after 6: 0.547
after 12: 0.588
after 18: 0.572
after 24: 0.689
after 30: -0.061
after 36: -0.705
after 42: -0.917
after 48: -0.960
after 54: -0.989
after 60: -0.998
after 66: -1.000
How about |1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r10 and then 19.v16 20.t17 or 19.u14 20.t16 21.t17 22.s18 23.u15 24.t20 25.s16 26.q17 27.q15 28.o16 29.o14 30.j18
Heh maybe you would find a more sympathetic reader here:
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/949/twixt/forums/0
|1.l8 2.swap 3.k12 4.l7 5.n9 6.p5 7.t6 8.s8 9.u9 10.r6 11.u8 12.t11 13.v12 14.s13 15.i13 16.k9 17.u10 18.r10 19.u14 20.t16 21.t17 22.s18 23.u15 24.t20 25.g12 26.n16 27.s16 28.q17 29.q15 30.m14 31.n12 32.m13 33.l14 34.l15 35.g8 36.h18
after 6: na
after 12: na
after 18: na
after 24: -0.557
after 30: -0.717
after 36: -0.437
after 42: -0.503
after 48: 0.622
after 54: 0.839
after 60: 0.893
after 66: 0.954
after 72: 0.991